An engineer by training, Abderrazzak Hamzaoui (58 years old) did not let himself be absorbed by his immense field of activity. His love for vowels and consonants guided him on the path of literature, not only as an avid reader but also as a writer. Author of “Le Muet”, published by “7eciel”, Abderrazzak Hamzaoui has only one claim, to transmit his knowledge and reduce the divide that currently defines the relationship between culture and new generations. Through his novel and the four years of writing that it required, he hopes from the bottom of his heart to make pupils and other university students want to read, discuss and above all develop critical thinking. A noble will after all but which comes up against a Moroccan and Arab youth against the grain of any inclination to cultivate themselves, little encouraged as they are by a political will which borders on nothingness for this purpose. In any case, Abderrazzak Hamzaoui does not give up and hopes in this way to help strengthen the collective intellectual immunity of young people of today and tomorrow. Libé: When did you feel the need to write? Abderrazzak Hamzaoui: I always intended to be a writer because even though I became one towards the end of my career, it was a way for me to express my ideas freely and to feel that I contributes to the development of society. In my opinion, literature is not just about the pleasure of reading but rather it is a way of thinking differently, of exchanging ideas and sharing them with readers. What excites you about the Arab-Muslim culture that is at the heart of your book? There are two aspects. The first is that I have found it useful to look at what might be called the brakes that prevent the human mind from thinking freely. And especially a prevailing belief that the one who excelled was the one who learned and not the one who understood. The result of this belief is that we hit the wall in many areas, in this case education and culture, thus promoting indoctrination and unique thinking. The second point, which is positive, is the wisdom that emerges from the little stories that our grandparents told us. Moreover, our culture is very rich in this sense. However, it would be on the decline. Do you think it is possible to give it a second wind? This is precisely one of the main ideas of my book “Le muet”. You are absolutely right, the Arab-Muslim culture is in decline, but the starting point of any evolution or any development is first of all the questioning of absolute truths. You have to have the courage to question thoughts. I came to this conclusion because I always thought about what I was doing and I never missed the opportunity to train myself in a multidisciplinary way. Besides, I don’t think I have ever been a slave to any technique or skill as interesting as it is. I always wondered how I could develop myself and become better. The fact that I am a master in neuro-linguistic programming also taught me that for a human being to be able to develop and impact his environment, he would have to position himself in a situation where he has a choice. Blindly lining up behind such an interesting thought is not a good idea. We must always ask ourselves questions, take a step back, think differently and see if we have other choices available to us. It’s a great program, certainly, but can it be effective without the political will to popularize culture? In fact, everything is linked. For the political decision-maker to be able to make such decisions, he would have to have the courage to question himself. Through my experiences in administration, I have noticed that sometimes decision making is only up to the individual himself. He deludes himself that he couldn’t make a decision when in reality his limiting beliefs are holding him back. Which again ties in with what I was explaining about the importance of questioning thought. Additionally, limiting beliefs have another downside since it is something that was used at one time and is no longer useful today. Do you support the theory that humanity is currently lacking in creativity compared to previous centuries? Humanity has always been creative. It is, and it will be. If we find ourselves in a situation where we are stuck in absolute truth, elsewhere in the world there will certainly be creative minds. And to contribute to the creativity of humanity, the human being, in general, would have to be reconciled with his thought, that he mastered it by thinking freely. In a recent interview, you said that the arts represent life or rather its manifestations, does that mean indirectly that the absence of art in our lives is another way of dying, at least intellectually? Finally, the arts bring us closer to beauty. In my opinion, beauty is a combination of several components. It turns out that life is illustrated in arrangements such as flowers, or landscapes, among others. So the closer we get to our artistic ability, the closer we get to life, enjoy it and appreciate it. We all have this artistic sensibility. The problem is, if we find ourselves in an environment that appreciates the arts, we have a good chance of developing an artistic sensibility, otherwise it is likely to be very limited. And in this sense, it would be necessary at some point that the political decision-makers give importance to the development of the capacities of each individual to allow him to have a great artistic sensitivity. This is what results in hope. You are a master practitioner in neuro-linguistic programming (NLP), what does it consist of? It is about modeling the excellence and the thought of the human being. For NLP to have an impact, humans would have to be adept at meta-thinking and therefore have to ask themselves questions. Then, each person who has achieved excellence in a given experience should become a source of inspiration for others. What praises NLP is the experiences of specialists in a given field. They all had the same skills but, at the same time, there were some who excelled and others not. The idea was therefore to model the way of thinking of these people who excel. This made it possible to establish protocols made available to all. These protocols have shown that the secret to it all lies in the way of thinking of the individual. So there are people who have the capacity to question themselves and to question limited beliefs and others less, in spite of their university training at times. Does NLP in any way influence the way you write and think about the world? It helped me put myself in the other’s shoes to be in the same state of mind, to feel what they are feeling and to better understand their way of thinking. So NLP has this strength to give us tools that allow us to better understand the world. As we always say in NLP, everyone has their own map of the world. NLP also allows me to step back and see to what extent the limiting beliefs may have caused damage to the characters. As an example, I can cite Saad, the main character of “Le Muet”. When he was in prison where he suffered atrocities from a jihadist organization, I made the effort to experience his condition to better describe what he was feeling. And I can assure you that as I was describing the atrocious scenes I had tears in my eyes, I was feeling what he was feeling, and it took several weeks to release myself from the feelings that the character has. could experience. And this is precisely thanks to NLP, which also has many other advantages, such as being in a meta position in relation to different characters. A process generally referred to as Flaubertian irony by writers or novelists. That is to say the situation where the reader knows how the story will evolve unlike the characters. Without forgetting that most of the people in my novel “Le muet” have taken an initiatory journey. A journey through which beliefs have been swept aside as history unfolds. This process of changing beliefs can only be completed through emotional states and the actual experiences of the characters.